Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

02/11/2015 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:43 AM Presentation: Alaska Aerospace Corporation Overview; Administrative Order 271
10:04:18 AM Overview: University of Alaska Fy 16 Budget
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 11, 2015                                                                                          
                         9:01 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:01:51 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  called  the  Senate  Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:01 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Anna MacKinnon, Co-Chair                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Peter Micciche, Vice-Chair                                                                                              
Senator Click Bishop                                                                                                            
Senator Mike Dunleavy                                                                                                           
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Craig  Campbell,  President  and  Chief  Executive  Officer,                                                                    
Alaska  Aerospace Corporation,  Department  of Military  and                                                                    
Veterans Affairs;  Patrick Gamble, President,  University of                                                                    
Alaska,   and  Chair,   Board   of   the  Alaska   Aerospace                                                                    
Corporation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION:   ALASKA   AEROSPACE   CORPORATION   OVERVIEW;                                                                    
ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER 271                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEW: UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA FY 16 BUDGET                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION:   ALASKA   AEROSPACE  CORPORATION   OVERVIEW;                                                                  
ADMINISTRATIVE ORDER 271                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:03:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG  CAMPBELL,  PRESIDENT  AND  CHIEF  EXECUTIVE  OFFICER,                                                                    
ALASKA AEROSPACE  CORPORATION (AAC), DEPARTMENT  OF MILITARY                                                                    
AND  VETERANS AFFAIRS,  discussed  the presentation  "Alaska                                                                    
Legislative 2015 Overview Presentation,"  (copy on file). He                                                                    
stated  that the  last year  had been  very dynamic  for the                                                                    
corporation. He hoped the committee  would recognize that it                                                                    
had some  innovative ways to  change the  corporation, given                                                                    
the  challenging   fiscal  climate.  He  wanted   to  answer                                                                    
questions  regarding  the  accident that  had  happened  the                                                                    
previous August, the subsequent re-build, and future plans.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell looked at slide 2, "FY 2015 Budget Changes":                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •New Launch Contract secured                                                                                               
     •New Global Imaging Distribution Contract secured                                                                          
     •$2.0 Million Reduction (25 percent) in General Funds                                                                      
     •Deleted 3 vacant PCN's                                                                                                    
     •Huntsville Virtual Office established                                                                                     
     •Received $2.4 Million in deferred maintenance funds                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  detailed that  AAC  was  under contract  with                                                                    
Miltec  Corporation  for  a  second  launch  of  the  failed                                                                    
mission.  There  had  been  no  date  chosen,  and  AAC  was                                                                    
aggressively  working  on  a rebuild  of  the  launch  site.                                                                    
During  the year,  AAC had  also completed  a contract  with                                                                    
BlackBridge  for  global imaging  distribution.  BlackBridge                                                                    
had a  constellation of five  rapid-eye satellites  in polar                                                                    
orbit that imaged  the world, and was the  only company that                                                                    
could  provide  full coverage  of  the  state without  cloud                                                                    
cover. He added that AAC  was the distributer of the imaging                                                                    
data worldwide.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  specified that there  was an  individual hired                                                                    
on contract for AAC's virtual  office in Huntsville, who had                                                                    
extensive experience and had good  connections with NASA and                                                                    
the U.S.  Department of  Defense, and  was developing  a new                                                                    
business market with the Huntsville market.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  spoke  to   the  deferred  maintenance  funds                                                                    
received  the  previous  year, which  were  used  for  basic                                                                    
renovation and  much-needed repairs.  He relayed  that until                                                                    
two  years previously,  AAC had  not  received any  deferred                                                                    
maintenance funds,  so some facilities  had been in  need of                                                                    
repair.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:06:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Campbell  highlighted   slide  3,   "FY  2016   Budget                                                                    
Highlights":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •Eliminate  $4.2 Million  General Funds  for operations                                                                    
     and sustainment                                                                                                            
     •Return  $22.0 Million  in  capital fund  appropriation                                                                    
     for medium-lift                                                                                                            
     •Complete Launch Facility Rebuild with Insurance Funds                                                                     
     •Complete Launch Pad 3 Environmental Assessment                                                                            
     •Pending  Executive Branch  Approval, complete  medium-                                                                    
     lift project with remaining  $3.0 Million in previously                                                                    
     appropriated capital funds                                                                                                 
     •Proceed in  collaboration with Lockheed  Martin, ASRC,                                                                    
     and  the   University  of   Alaska  in   developing  an                                                                    
     Aerospace Integration Complex  to support a diversified                                                                    
     aerospace industry in Alaska                                                                                               
     •Reduce 10 PCN's                                                                                                           
     •Expand BlackBridge satellite imaging services                                                                             
     •Expand commercial launcher capabilities                                                                                   
     •Provide   contract  Range   Services  at   non-Federal                                                                    
     spaceports in the U.S.                                                                                                     
     •Initiate  transition process  of AAC  to a  privatized                                                                    
     non-state company                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  conveyed his excitement  for the  coming year,                                                                    
and asked the committee's  support for the governor's budget                                                                    
request.  He stated  that AAC  was in  concurrence with  the                                                                    
governor in  reducing its GF  by $4.2 million. He  had asked                                                                    
for  AAC to  retain  budget authorization  for $11  million,                                                                    
with the  $4.2 million in GF  to be shifted to  receipts. He                                                                    
clarified  that  the switch  would  allow  AAC to  earn  the                                                                    
funds. He  pointed that  the total  budget would  reflect an                                                                    
increase but the $4.2 million in GF would remain zero.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell discussed  the environmental assessment pending                                                                    
for Launch  Pad 3, and  specified that the  Federal Aviation                                                                    
Administration  (FAA)   was  about  to  release   its  final                                                                    
determination on  the assessment.  He discussed  the various                                                                    
activities   that   would    be   consolidated   under   the                                                                    
collaborative Aerospace  Integration Complex. He  noted that                                                                    
he did  not plan on  any position reductions beyond  the ten                                                                    
that were  listed on the  slide. He discussed  the potential                                                                    
revenue  generation from  providing contract  range services                                                                    
to other airports.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  asked the  committee  to  focus on  the  last                                                                    
bullet  of  the  slide,  which  pertained  to  initiating  a                                                                    
transition  of AAC  to a  privatized  non-state company.  He                                                                    
relayed that he had  conversations with the governor's chief                                                                    
of staff Jim Whitaker, and  had been working to identify how                                                                    
to keep  AAC as  a value  to the state.  He did  not support                                                                    
shutting down AAC; and referred  to investment that had been                                                                    
made in  the corporation, as  well as the  job opportunities                                                                    
it  offered.  He  did  not  think  an  outright  sale  would                                                                    
generate significant  revenues, or even recover  the cost of                                                                    
state   investment  to   date.   For   these  reasons,   the                                                                    
corporation  was starting  a process  to  privatize AAC  and                                                                    
create value  that would provide  a return on  investment in                                                                    
the future.  He clarified  that privatization  of AAC  was a                                                                    
new concept  that had  only been  developed in  the previous                                                                    
week.  He  reiterated that  he  had  been working  with  the                                                                    
executive branch  to determine  the boundaries,  and thought                                                                    
there  was concurrence  that a  privatization  plan was  the                                                                    
right answer for AAC in the future.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  asked  Mr.  Campbell  to  use  specific                                                                    
language rather than acronyms. Mr. Campbell agreed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  continued that when  he had mentioned  PCNs he                                                                    
had  been   referring  to   personnel  control   numbers  or                                                                    
personnel in  the company. He  reiterated that AAC  would be                                                                    
reducing  by 10  positions through  retirement, vacancy  and                                                                    
attrition rather  than layoffs.  He was unsure  what changes                                                                    
would result from an  ongoing conversation on privatization,                                                                    
and  thought  the  discussion  might   change  how  AAC  was                                                                    
organized.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche asked if anyone  from the private sector                                                                    
had  expressed  interest in  a  partnership  with AAC  or  a                                                                    
purchase of its facility.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell stated  that there had been no  interest in the                                                                    
purchase of AAC or any of its facilities.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:13:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche asked if Mr.  Campbell had witnessed any                                                                    
excitement from  other entities regarding  the possibilities                                                                    
engendered   through  privatization.   He   wondered  if   a                                                                    
partnership would be advantageous.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  had not received any  expressions of interest,                                                                    
and  thought the  aerospace  market was  very  small in  the                                                                    
United States, and posited that  no aerospace companies that                                                                    
he knew  of were interested  in owning a launch  complex. He                                                                    
added  that  there were  only  four  launch complexes  (that                                                                    
launched  rockets   into  orbit)  including   three  federal                                                                    
facilities and  the Kodiak Launch  Complex (KLC). He  had no                                                                    
indication  that any  of the  facilities  wanted to  convert                                                                    
into a private  operation at the current  time. He suggested                                                                    
that the privatization of AAC  would be a hybrid model under                                                                    
which  the  operations  side   would  develop  business  and                                                                    
utilize KLC,  and selling for  a value return for  the state                                                                    
would be evaluated  at a later date. He  thought selling AAC                                                                    
was  a  longer  term   proposition,  and  the  corporation's                                                                    
assessment was that putting AAC  on the market would lead to                                                                    
a disappointing response.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell looked at slide 4, "SMDC August Launch":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     •Advanced Hypersonic Weapon Test Flight                                                                                    
     •Aborted Launch August 25, 2014                                                                                            
     •Rocket Destroyed shortly after Lift-off -Safety                                                                           
     measures worked properly                                                                                                   
     •SMDC Investigation Clears KLC of any issues                                                                               
     pertaining to the failure!                                                                                                 
     •Damage was fully contained on AAC property                                                                                
     •Damaged Facilities                                                                                                        
          •Launch Support Structure                                                                                             
          •Integrated Processing Facility                                                                                       
          •Spacecraft and Assembly Transfer Facility                                                                            
          •Minor damage to Payload Processing Facility                                                                          
          •Minor damage to Rocket Motor Storage Facility                                                                        
     •Estimated Damage Repair Costs                                                                                             
          •$29.7 million                                                                                                        
     •Facilities Fully Insured                                                                                                  
     •Clean-up of rocket and payload debris mostly complete                                                                     
     •Demolition   and   clean-up    of   severely   damaged                                                                    
     facilities underway                                                                                                        
     •Rebuild design completed and rebuild contracts are                                                                        
     being issued                                                                                                               
     •Rebuild to be completed by October 1, 2015                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  pointed  out  the  fourth  bullet  point  and                                                                    
highlighted that the  command that had owned  the rocket and                                                                    
payload had  completed an investigation  and found  no fault                                                                    
with the  KLC. He continued that  AAC had been paying  in to                                                                    
the state insurance pool since it  started, and had put in a                                                                    
claim  to rebuild  the facility  for  completion in  October                                                                    
2015.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:16:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  highlighted slide 5, "Medium  Lift Request For                                                                    
Proposals":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •In the FY2013 budget, the Legislature approved, $25.0                                                                     
     Million capital funds to support developing medium-                                                                        
     lift in Alaska                                                                                                             
          •Legislation  specifically stated  that the  $25.0                                                                    
          Million  in state  funding was  for infrastructure                                                                    
          development   specifically   for  medium   payload                                                                    
          launches                                                                                                              
          •Medium payloads weight in excess of 4,000 pounds                                                                     
          •The $25.0 million was "gated" into three phases:                                                                     
               •Phase  One   =  $3.0  Million   for  design,                                                                    
               engineering,    infrastructure   prep,    and                                                                    
               environmental work                                                                                               
               •Phase    Two    =    $10.0    Million    for                                                                    
               infrastructure  development, which  could not                                                                    
               be  spent until  a firm  contract was  signed                                                                    
               with  a  launch  provider  for  medium  class                                                                    
               launches                                                                                                         
               •Phase    Three   =    $12.0   Million    for                                                                    
               construction  which can  not  be spent  until                                                                    
               any additional funding  is raised to complete                                                                    
               construction of a medium lift facility                                                                           
     •Estimated cost for a new medium-lift complex at                                                                           
     Kodiak was estimated to be no less than $125.0                                                                             
     Million.                                                                                                                   
          •All funds above the state $25.0 Million would                                                                        
          require private/commercial funding                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  described  medium  lift  as  a  controversial                                                                    
topic.  He  discussed  interest from  the  Orbital  Sciences                                                                    
Corporation and  Lockheed Martin to  do medium lift.  At the                                                                    
time,  the  rockets   being  considered  (Lockheed  Martin's                                                                    
Athena  III rocket  and  Orbital  Sciences' Antares  rocket)                                                                    
were  fairly large.  He relayed  that neither  company found                                                                    
the financing that  would allow them to  profitably sell the                                                                    
rockets.  He  had  seen other  movements  in  the  industry,                                                                    
including  international rockets  of smaller  size but  with                                                                    
ability to launch a medium sized satellite.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  turned to  slide 6,  "Medium Lift  Request For                                                                    
Proposals - Continued":                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •In  September  2014  staff  developed  a  Request  For                                                                    
     Proposal offering  $21.0 Million  of the  $25.0 Million                                                                    
     in   a   competitive   source  selection   to   provide                                                                    
     commercial launch services  for delivering medium class                                                                    
    payloads into orbit from the Kodiak Launch Complex                                                                          
     •Proposers must:                                                                                                           
          •Describe how the $21.0 Million state funding                                                                         
          would be used                                                                                                         
          •Identify the Offeror Infrastructure Requirements                                                                     
          •Identify the Offeror Infrastructure Investment                                                                       
          •Guarantee three medium class launches from KLC                                                                       
          by 2020                                                                                                               
     •Proposals were delivered on November 25, 2014                                                                             
     •Four proposals were submitted                                                                                             
     •Evaluation  of proposals  was completed  by AAC  staff                                                                    
     and oral interviews were held on December 9, 2014                                                                          
     •On  December 12,  2015, Lockheed  Martin was  selected                                                                    
     for their Athena IIS medium lift rocket proposal                                                                           
     •An  "Intent  to  Award a  Contract"  notice  has  been                                                                    
     issued to Lockheed Martin.                                                                                                 
     •Contract  negotiations  have   started,  with  initial                                                                    
     estimates  for   medium-lift  between  $3.0   and  $6.0                                                                    
     Million                                                                                                                    
     •AAC plans to use only the  Phase I $3.0 Million of the                                                                    
     $25.0  Million   appropriation,  plus   other  existing                                                                    
     Federal funding for medium-lift construction                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell elaborated that the  Lockheed Martin Athena IIS                                                                    
model rocket  (that was selected  in the  competitive source                                                                    
selection) was larger  than the Athena I,  and had increased                                                                    
payload capability  from additional  engines to give  it the                                                                    
medium lift capability  and ability to be  launched from the                                                                    
existing launch pad.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell spoke to slide 7, "Administrative Order 271":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    •Governor Walker issued AO 271 on December 26, 2014                                                                         
     •Specified  to  halt  to the  maximum  extent  possible                                                                    
     discretionary expenditure on six "Projects"                                                                                
          •Kodiak Launch Complex was listed as one of the                                                                       
          projects                                                                                                              
     •Alaska  Aerospace Corporation  legal counsel  reviewed                                                                    
     and  determined  the  only  "project"  currently  being                                                                    
     pursued by AAC was the medium lift RFP process                                                                             
     •AAC  has  suspended  further actions  on  medium  lift                                                                    
    pending approval to proceed by the Executive branch                                                                         
     •AAC has advised the  administration that the remaining                                                                    
     $22.0 million is available to be returned to the state                                                                     
     •AAC  has   requested  the  governor  approve   AAC  to                                                                    
     complete  the   contract  negotiations   with  Lockheed                                                                    
     Martin,  not  to  exceed  $3.0  million  of  the  $25.0                                                                    
     million appropriation                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  turned to  slide 8,  "Medium Lift  RFP," which                                                                    
showed an  artist's rendition of  what the Athena  IIS would                                                                    
look  like on  the existing  AAC launch  site. He  confirmed                                                                    
that  AAC was  on hold,  pending approval  of the  executive                                                                    
branch  to proceed.  He pointed  out that  the rocket  being                                                                    
considered  was thin  but with  a fairly  large payload.  He                                                                    
discussed  features  of  the   launch  structure  and  boost                                                                    
capability.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell spoke to slide  9, "Launch Pad 3 -Environmental                                                                    
Assessment":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     •An  Environmental Assessment  (EA) is  being conducted                                                                    
     for  medium  lift  operations from  the  Kodiak  Launch                                                                    
     Complex                                                                                                                    
     •The  Federal  Aviation  Administration  (FAA)  is  the                                                                    
     sponsor of the EA                                                                                                          
     •A draft  EA was  released for public  review September                                                                    
     15, 2014                                                                                                                   
     •A public  hearing was conducted  in Kodiak  on October                                                                    
     7, 2014                                                                                                                    
     •The FAA is reviewing public comments                                                                                      
          •54 written comments were received                                                                                    
          •20 people testified                                                                                                  
     •FAA determination expected in early 2015                                                                                  
     •AAC has a potential  customer interested in conducting                                                                    
     west coast  launches from Alaska  and building  LP-3 in                                                                    
     the future                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell stated  that an  environmental assessment  was                                                                    
being conducted for  a new launch pad, and  he was expecting                                                                    
a determination within the next two months.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:20:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell highlighted slide  10, "Geospatial Imaging Data                                                                    
Distribution Contract":                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •To diversify  AAC, in May 2014  senior staff initiated                                                                    
     discussion with BlackBridge  for potential distribution                                                                    
     rights  for  imaging  data from  the  RapidEye  imaging                                                                    
     constellation                                                                                                              
     •RapidEye  is a  constellation of  five polar  orbiting                                                                    
     satellites  that collect  five meter  imaging data  for                                                                    
     commercial sales                                                                                                           
     •The AAC Board of  Directors approved Resolution #14-03                                                                    
     at  the August  board  meeting authorizing  negotiation                                                                    
     for  a  new business  venture  in  Geospatial Data  and                                                                    
     Satellite Imaging Sales and Distribution                                                                                   
     •A  contract   was  signed  on  October   2,  2014  for                                                                    
     distribution rights of BlackBridge Alaska imaging data                                                                     
     •AAC   has    completed   initial    orientation   with                                                                    
     BlackBridge  and  has  a   staff  member  dedicated  to                                                                    
     BlackBridge sales of Alaska imaging                                                                                        
     ·  This contract was a significant step in diversifying                                                                    
        AAC with an emphasis on commercial markets                                                                              
     ·  AAC has  initiated discussions  with BlackBridge  to                                                                    
        expand the contract to include data downlink                                                                            
        services                                                                                                                
     •AAC is also working to  secure launch services for the                                                                    
     next generation of RapidEye  satellites, expected to be                                                                    
     launched in the 2018/2020 timeframe                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  pointed out that  the geospatial  imaging data                                                                    
distribution contract  referenced on slide 10  was the first                                                                    
step for  AAC in diversifying  the company away  from solely                                                                    
rocket  launch  activities.  He   thought  one  problem  the                                                                    
corporation  had created  for  itself was  focusing only  on                                                                    
launching  small rockets  from  Kodiak. He  referred to  the                                                                    
original intent of AAC as  written in statute; and clarified                                                                    
that  the  corporation  was  not designed  to  be  a  launch                                                                    
complex,  but  rather   focused  aerospace  development  and                                                                    
working closely with the University.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell directed  attention to the bottom  of slide 10,                                                                    
and  noted  that  the  next   step  in  diversification  was                                                                    
possibly  expanding   the  data  distribution   contract  to                                                                    
include data downlink services.  Further, AAC was working to                                                                    
secure launch  services for the next  generation of RapidEye                                                                    
satellites.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy referred  to the  bottom of  slide 9,  and                                                                    
asked   if  the   potential  customer   was  interested   in                                                                    
underwriting the entire  cost of building launch  pad 3 (LP-                                                                    
3).                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell clarified  that AAC  had a  potential customer                                                                    
that wanted  to launch from  Kodiak sometime in  the future,                                                                    
and AAC had not yet  discussed the financing arrangement. He                                                                    
could not say if the customer  expected AAC to pay for LP-3,                                                                    
expected  to  pay  for  it  themselves,  or  collaboratively                                                                    
finance the project.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if it was  the goal of AAC  that the                                                                    
customer underwrite the entire cost of LP-3.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell stated  that his goal was to  privatize AAC and                                                                    
no longer return  to the state to request  funding to expand                                                                    
the business.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop   commented  that  the   potential  contract                                                                    
expansion with  BlackBridge was  intriguing. He  referred to                                                                    
state  mapping with  the Alaska  Division of  Geological and                                                                    
Geophysical  Surveys  (DGGS)  and  thought  there  could  be                                                                    
synergy between it and the potential expansion project.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  stated that AAC  was hoping for  such synergy,                                                                    
and furthered that RapidEye and  BlackBridge had a very good                                                                    
product. He  thought the state  would be purchasing  some of                                                                    
the  product. He  discussed how  the  imaging product  would                                                                    
work in Alaska for private industry as well as government.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:22:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell discussed slide 11, "Dragon Tracking":                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC has a contract to track the Dragon capsule during                                                                     
     missions to the International Space Station (ISS)                                                                          
     •AAC has tracked the Dragon on all five of its                                                                             
     missions to the ISS                                                                                                        
    •Last tracking mission was last month, January 2015                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell added  that AAC  would  continue tracking  the                                                                    
Dragon  capsule,  and that  the  corporation  was using  its                                                                    
facilities for  activities other  than rocket  launches from                                                                    
Kodiak.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell   addressed  slide   12,  "Range   Safety  and                                                                    
Telemetry System (RSTS)";                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •The RSTS is a  sophisticated telemetry tracking system                                                                    
     that  provides  range  safety  during  the  launch  and                                                                    
     telemetry downlink capability to  collect data from the                                                                    
     launch vehicle                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •There  are  at least  three  companies  in the  United                                                                    
     States  that   offer  range  safety   and/or  telemetry                                                                    
     services worldwide                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC has  determined that separating the  RSTS out from                                                                    
     the  KLC range  and creating  a separate  business unit                                                                    
     for RSTS operations is a viable option                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •Discussions are currently  underway with other service                                                                    
     providers  to   develop  a  plan  for   marketing  RSTS                                                                    
     services  and providing  more cost-effective  range and                                                                    
     telemetry services at KLC for future launches                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  explained that the Range  Safety and Telemetry                                                                    
System  (RSTS)  was  used  by AAC  to  track  launches  from                                                                    
Kodiak. He  reminded the committee  that AAC had  gone three                                                                    
years without a  launch, and the system was  unused for that                                                                    
period  of time.  He reported  no launches  for 2015,  which                                                                    
would  be another  year of  the  system not  being used.  He                                                                    
explained that the RSTS was  made of equipment that could be                                                                    
used  anywhere in  the world,  and AAC  had started  to talk                                                                    
with other providers of range  services as to how the system                                                                    
could  be used  elsewhere to  create additional  revenue. He                                                                    
reported  discussions  with  two  companies as  to  how  the                                                                    
system could  be utilized, and emphasized  the deterioration                                                                    
that was possible when systems lie dormant.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:24:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  highlighted slide 13,  "International Business                                                                    
Development Initiatives":                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •The international  launch market  has expanded  in the                                                                    
     past decade                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •Numerous foreign  companies now offer both  rocket and                                                                    
     satellite services                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     •Eighty  percent  of   the  U.S.  commercial  satellite                                                                    
     market is launched overseas                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •The  only U.S.  competitor for  KLC polar  launches is                                                                    
     Vandenberg AFB, a Federal military installation                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •Wyoming  Aerospace conducted  a  study  for AAC  which                                                                    
     identified  significant  opportunity for  international                                                                    
     business                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC has initiated coordination with the State                                                                             
     Department   for   International    Traffic   In   Arms                                                                    
     Regulation (ITAR) approval to conduct foreign launches                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •Three markets are being pursued for commercial                                                                            
     launches:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          •Japan -Epsilon rocket                                                                                                
          •Italy -Vega rocket                                                                                                   
          •Israel -Shavit rocket                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  discussed the  new  initiative  that AAC  was                                                                    
taking in  the international launch market.  He relayed that                                                                    
the corporation  had hired a  consultant who  had identified                                                                    
that the  three rockets  listed on the  bottom of  the slide                                                                    
(in  Japan, Italy,  and Israel)  were  all solid-fuel  small                                                                    
launches  which were  looking for  commercial opportunities.                                                                    
All  three   rockets  were   launching  from   their  native                                                                    
countries, but  as they expanded  in the  commercial market,                                                                    
may need additional range capability.  He furthered that AAC                                                                    
was entering  discussions with the three  entities about the                                                                    
potential of  using KLC as  an overflow facility  should the                                                                    
commercial market expand to a  level that the capacity could                                                                    
not be  met in their own  country. He thought AAC  would get                                                                    
very   few  foreign   launches,  but   considered  that   an                                                                    
established  relationship  as  an  overflow  facility  would                                                                    
create some income.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  wondered why  such  a  large portion  (80                                                                    
percent)  of  the  U.S.   commercial  satellite  market  was                                                                    
launched overseas.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  replied that the  U.S. had raised the  cost of                                                                    
launch to  an unacceptable level for  the commercial market.                                                                    
He noted that  Cape Canaveral and Vandenberg  Air Force Base                                                                    
(both federal  facilities) were  utilized as  primary launch                                                                    
sites, predominantly using very  large rockets. He furthered                                                                    
that the commercial satellite industry  had changed; and had                                                                    
much   smaller  satellites   for  imaging,   communications,                                                                    
navigation, and weather.  The U.S. did not have  the type of                                                                    
facilities for the satellites to  meet the cost for making a                                                                    
profit. He  added that  AAC was looking  at the  Vega rocket                                                                    
(from Italy)  and Epsilon rocket (from  Japan), because they                                                                    
were lower cost  rockets. If the rockets  could be attracted                                                                    
to  Kodiak  for  launch, the  commercial  satellite  company                                                                    
could get a low-cost rocket at a low-cost launch facility.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy asked if the majority of overseas launch                                                                       
sites were private or government owned.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell stated that the sites were all government                                                                          
owned.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:26:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell discussed slide 14, "Unmanned Aircraft Systems                                                                     
(UAS) Initiatives":                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •For the past six years  AAC has pursued acquisition of                                                                    
     the  Global Hawk  Unmanned Aircraft  System (UAS)  from                                                                    
     the U.S. Air Force for commercial use in Alaska                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     •Initial concept was to acquire  three Global Hawks and                                                                    
     operate from Eielson AFB                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •Primary  projected customers  were  state and  Federal                                                                    
     agencies                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     •Peak 3,  an Alaskan firm,  was hired  in 2014 to  do a                                                                    
     comprehensive analysis of  the financial feasibility of                                                                    
     AAC acquiring and operating the Global Hawk                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •Conclusion  of the  study found  that the  acquisition                                                                    
     and operating costs probably could  not be recovered by                                                                    
     the projected customer revenue base                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     •Decision  was  made  in June  2014  to  cease  further                                                                    
     pursuit of the Global Hawk                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC is a partner with  the University of Alaska in the                                                                    
     FAA UAS Pan-Pacific Test Site.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC  has identified  KLC as  a test  location for  UAS                                                                    
     operations                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC is discussing with the  University staff means for                                                                    
     AAC to become the  commercial entity for UAS operations                                                                    
    beyond the research, test, and development stages.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  noted that  AAC had  been working  on unmanned                                                                    
aircraft  systems  for  a  number   of  years.  He  directed                                                                    
attention to the picture in  the upper right corner of slide                                                                    
14, depicting  the large unmanned aircraft  Global Hawk. The                                                                    
system was very expensive to operate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  spoke to  slide  15,  "AAC Composite  Revenue                                                                    
History":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     •Federal Grants=$150,646,770 (43 percent)                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     •Launch Revenues=$146,325,065 (41 percent)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •State Investment=$58,627,566 (16 percent)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     •Total =$355,599,401                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Figures reflect all revenues from 1993 through June                                                                        
     30, 2014                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  referred to  comments in  the media  which had                                                                    
alleged  that AAC  had  never  made any  money.  He did  not                                                                    
understand the  allegation and  stated that  if depreciation                                                                    
was not  considered, there  was a number  of years  in which                                                                    
AAC  had made  money. He  mentioned a  problem in  2012, and                                                                    
stated that AAC had operated for  a dozen years with its own                                                                    
cash flow  and had  never before  come to  the state  with a                                                                    
funding  request.  He  stated that  the  slide  reflected  a                                                                    
composite picture of revenue as of June 2014.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  emphasized that he considered  the $58 million                                                                    
in state investment to be a  lot of money, but did not think                                                                    
it was  fair to say that  because of the investment  the AAC                                                                    
had  not   generated  any  money.   He  revealed   that  the                                                                    
corporation had  generated almost  $300 million  in funding.                                                                    
He referred  to a launch  in Kodiak  in August of  2014, and                                                                    
pointed out  that about  $250 thousand  was spent  on rental                                                                    
cars in  the area.  Close to  $1 million  had been  spent on                                                                    
hotel and  restaurant sales in  a 90-day period.  He thought                                                                    
AAC was capable of being  a revenue generator for the state.                                                                    
He qualified  that the  last few  days had  not demonstrated                                                                    
the capability, but wanted to recognize AACs successes.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:29:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked about AACs  corresponding operations                                                                    
and maintenance costs.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  stated that payroll,  utilities, and  rent was                                                                    
approximately $6 million per year.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche referred  to  the  aborted launch  that                                                                    
took place  in August 2015.  He thought it was  unusual that                                                                    
KLC was not  found to be at fault, yet  the entity launching                                                                    
the  rocket  was  not  responsible for  any  damage  to  the                                                                    
facility. He wondered if both  parties in a launch agreement                                                                    
were contractually held harmless.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  stated that  AAC  was  receiving the  rebuild                                                                    
funding from  the insurance  company, and  was unsure  as to                                                                    
whether there would  be a claim against any  other party. He                                                                    
thought  the  information could  be  clarified  by the  risk                                                                    
management department.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   clarified  that  AAC   would  continue                                                                    
forward, and  the state's internal risk  management would be                                                                    
making a  claim with  the federal  government and  trying to                                                                    
resolve issues from an insurance perspective.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell   understood  the  process  was   as  Co-Chair                                                                    
MacKinnon described.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche wondered  about the  impact and  future                                                                    
cost of  $29 million  [estimated damage repair  cost] coming                                                                    
out of the state insurance  pool. He thought it might change                                                                    
the state's risk profile.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  was not  sure of the  impact, and  thought the                                                                    
question  of  future  costs and  risk  management  was  best                                                                    
answered  by  the  Department  of  Administration  and  risk                                                                    
management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:31:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  thought  that Vice-Chair  Micciche  had                                                                    
raised  a  great question,  and  stated  that the  committee                                                                    
would author a letter on the subject.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche  thought perhaps  the committee  and AAC                                                                    
might have  different definitions of the  phrase "generating                                                                    
revenues."  He wondered  if launch  fees were  sufficient to                                                                    
cover the state, considering the risk of a launch failure.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  stated that  AAC made a  profit from  the fees                                                                    
charged for a launch, and  the profit covered the ability to                                                                    
pay for insurance and fees  for each year. He qualified that                                                                    
a launch was a profitable operation, but more were needed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy  asked  for  clarification  about  the  $6                                                                    
million in annual maintenance and operations.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell affirmed that the  $6 million included the cost                                                                    
of payroll (for approximately  40 employees), electricity to                                                                    
run   the   sites,  the   lease   cost   for  offices,   and                                                                    
administrative fees paid to the state.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  discussed slide 16,  "State of  Alaska Funding                                                                    
Snapshot":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     •SFY   2013  -$8.0M   State   Funding  (Includes   100%                                                                    
     Sustainment Funding)                                                                                                       
     •SFY  2014  -$8.0M  State Funding  *Provided  a  launch                                                                    
     services contract is signed by 31 March 2013                                                                               
     •SFY 2015 -$6.0M -Approved State funding                                                                                   
     •SFY 2016 -$0.0M -Governor's budget request                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell highlighted  slide 17,  "FY 14  Through FY  16                                                                    
Operating  Budget,"  pointing  out   the  middle  column  of                                                                    
governor's budget  and request  for GF and  the total  of GF                                                                    
and other  funds. He clarified  that the difference  of $4.2                                                                    
million  between  the two  years  would  be moved  into  AAC                                                                    
receipts.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:34:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell looked at slide 18, "Federal Funding Pursuit":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •The  Federal government  provides nearly  $1.0 Billion                                                                    
     in operations  and sustainment funding for  the Federal                                                                    
     ranges at Vandenberg AFB and Cape Canaveral                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     •The Federal  government does not provide  this type of                                                                    
     funding to non-Federal spaceports                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     •This year,  Senators Murkowski and Begich,  along with                                                                    
     co-sponsorship from  the Virginia  delegation, included                                                                    
     in the  Defense Appropriations  Bill $10.0  Million for                                                                    
     non-Federal spaceports that  support the National Space                                                                    
     Policy with capability to  place satellites into orbit.                                                                    
     KLC  and   MARS  are  the  only   two  facilities  that                                                                    
     currently have that capability                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •Final   action   on   the   Federal   FY2015   Omnibus                                                                    
     Appropriations  Bill  included  $6.0 Million  for  non-                                                                    
     Federal Spaceports that  launch government mission into                                                                    
     orbit supporting the National Security program                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     •AAC expects  to receive  up to  $3.0 Million  from the                                                                    
     Federal  (Air Force)  government in  2015, specifically                                                                    
     for operational support  of potential national security                                                                    
     launches  into  polar  orbit  from  the  Kodiak  Launch                                                                    
     Complex                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  relayed that  AAC had  been working  hard with                                                                    
the congressional  delegation for  the three  previous years                                                                    
to get  federal funding to support  the aerospace operations                                                                    
of non-federal space ports. He  highlighted the first bullet                                                                    
on  slide  18  to  emphasize that  non-federal  space  ports                                                                    
launch  for the  federal government.  He continued  that AAC                                                                    
had  made the  argument  that for  equity  purposes, if  the                                                                    
federal  government   expected  a  launch  facility   to  be                                                                    
available for  its use, it  needed to provide  some funding.                                                                    
The  corporation  anticipated  approximately $3  million  in                                                                    
federal funds to come to the state later in the year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell discussed slide 19, "Conclusion":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Aerospace  Corporation is rapidly  changing from                                                                    
     a   state-owned   corporation,  wholly   dependent   on                                                                    
     government   launches   and   state   funding,   to   a                                                                    
     diversified aerospace  corporation which  has a  mix of                                                                    
     commercial and  government operations  in a  variety of                                                                    
     aerospace  related businesses  and no  longer dependent                                                                    
     on state funding.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     The  new  AAC  leadership  team  can  not  change  what                                                                    
     happened  in the  past. However,  we have  already made                                                                    
     significant  changes  which   are  showing  a  positive                                                                    
     impact on  the corporation, future  business potential,                                                                    
     and the ability to continue operating.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     We are working with  the Administration on a transition                                                                    
     plan which  retains the market viability  of AAC, while                                                                    
     minimizing  requirements   for  state   operations  and                                                                    
     sustainment funding.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     For FY2016, AAC requests no state general funds.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     With   Executive  and   Legislative  support,   we  are                                                                    
     committed to  making AAC a  viable industry  in Alaska,                                                                    
     independent of state funding. We request your support!                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  relayed that  he  had  made a  commitment  to                                                                    
change AAC - the corporation would  not operate as it had in                                                                    
the past, it would not  be dependent upon state dollars, and                                                                    
it  would  create  a   diversified  aerospace  business.  He                                                                    
pointed  out   that  AAC  had   accomplished  much   of  the                                                                    
commitment;  and highlighted  diversification, reduced  need                                                                    
for state  dollars, and steps towards  privatization. He was                                                                    
pleased to  lead the  company and  mentioned his  support of                                                                    
the board  and board chairman  Pat Gamble. He asked  for the                                                                    
committee's support of AAC's budget request.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked who owned the  Mid-Atlantic Regional                                                                    
Space port (MARS) facility.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell   responded  that   MARS  was  owned   by  the                                                                    
commonwealth  of  Virginia,  and  was  co-located  with  the                                                                    
federal NASA Wallops flight facility.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:36:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon communicated  that she  had been  tasked                                                                    
with  authoring a  letter requesting  additional information                                                                    
pertaining  to   the  AAC  insurance  claim.   She  let  the                                                                    
committee  know that  she would  distribute  the letter  and                                                                    
wondered  if there  was any  other information  that members                                                                    
wished to be conveyed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked about the failed  rocket launch, and                                                                    
wondered if it was  commonplace that facilities were damaged                                                                    
during an aborted rocket lunch.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  reflected that historical rocket  failures had                                                                    
generally happened  farther from  the facility than  the KLC                                                                    
rocket  failure. He  qualified that  75 days  after the  KLC                                                                    
rocket launch  failure, the Antares rocket  (launching to go                                                                    
to the ISS) suffered  from nearly identical circumstances at                                                                    
the MARS site. The rocket  had traveled under 500 feet after                                                                    
having  engine malfunction  and falling  straight back  upon                                                                    
the launch  facility. He was  unable to  provide statistics,                                                                    
but  emphasized that  within 75  days the  same circumstance                                                                    
[rocket failures  close to  launch facilities]  had occurred                                                                    
twice.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy asked  if the incident at KLC  was a launch                                                                    
failure  in  combination  with a  decision  to  destroy  the                                                                    
rocket.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell explained  that  KLC had  a  range safety  and                                                                    
telemetry system which had tracked  the rocket from liftoff.                                                                    
He specified  that there were safety  boundaries observed by                                                                    
a  federal  official  known  as  a  Mission  Flight  Control                                                                    
Officer  (MFCO),  which  if exceeded  or  approached,  would                                                                    
result in  destruction of the rocket.  The investigation had                                                                    
revealed  the  rocket  had  not  had  a  payload  or  rocket                                                                    
problem,  but rather  the external  blanket that  peeled off                                                                    
the body of  the rocket had caused something  to happen with                                                                    
one of  the thrusters,  which in turn  caused the  rocket to                                                                    
swerve off course and ultimately be destroyed by the MFCO.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:39:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  if Mr.  Gamble  had any  comments                                                                    
about the AAC.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK GAMBLE, PRESIDENT, UNIVERSITY  OF ALASKA, AND CHAIR,                                                                    
BOARD OF  THE ALASKA  AEROSPACE CORPORATION,  commented that                                                                    
the  AAC board  had  two  roles: the  hiring  and firing  of                                                                    
personnel, and determining  the vision of the  future of the                                                                    
corporation. Without resolving the  vision of the state, AAC                                                                    
was not sure of its vision.  He queried whether AAC was just                                                                    
a business  deal, or was  Alaska "an aerospace  state" which                                                                    
was  investing  and committing  and  growing  across a  wide                                                                    
spectrum  of  aerospace  investments.   He  thought  it  was                                                                    
important  for the  vision to  become clearer;  so that  the                                                                    
issues  of risk,  investment,  and organizational  construct                                                                    
would  resolve. He  discussed models  that  the state  could                                                                    
consider, with privatization being  the newest model gaining                                                                    
the  most attention.  He emphasized  that privatization  was                                                                    
not the only  model that could be in  the future, especially                                                                    
depending  upon  what  the legislature  would  like  to  see                                                                    
considered. He expressed that the  attitude of the board was                                                                    
that there was more happening  at KLC currently (with regard                                                                    
to its future) than in the entire history of the site.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  thought the uniqueness of  Alaska's geographical                                                                    
position  had much  to do  with the  increased activity.  He                                                                    
discussed  the surge  of commercial  space for  the industry                                                                    
and the positive attributes of  AAC that corresponded to the                                                                    
market needs. He emphasized the  corporation's ability for a                                                                    
low-cost  rapid   turnaround  launch  capability   that  was                                                                    
attractive to a number  of potential customers. He suggested                                                                    
that AAC, in  the current market, could be  viewed almost as                                                                    
a start-up  company; one  that had a  great product  and had                                                                    
demonstrated  its   ability  to   customers  to   be  cheap,                                                                    
reliable, and safe.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble stressed  that AAC  had  a geophysical  position                                                                    
that was unlike the other  launch sites that were previously                                                                    
mentioned, and thought  AAC and KLC were  very important for                                                                    
polar  orbits. He  mentioned other  sites  that operated  at                                                                    
greater cost. He thought that  if AAC signed a contract with                                                                    
Lockheed Martin, it  would be a huge commitment  in terms of                                                                    
polar  launches,  and  would  bring  more  business  to  the                                                                    
corporation.  He thought  it was  probable that  clusters of                                                                    
customers would form after AAC  secured a major customer who                                                                    
would "break trail" for smaller  companies that could settle                                                                    
in Alaska or  partner with larger companies.  He thought the                                                                    
priority for AAC  was to get through the next  two years, at                                                                    
which time there would be  increased commercial success. The                                                                    
board  was  comprised  of   individuals  who  had  extensive                                                                    
experience in the industry. He  was confident, yet concerned                                                                    
about  the   budget  realities   being  considered   by  the                                                                    
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Gamble  thought   the   board   would  be   discussing                                                                    
privatization  with Mr.  Campbell.  He  reiterated that  the                                                                    
activities of  the following two years  would be significant                                                                    
in  determining the  future success  of the  corporation. He                                                                    
shared that  Mr. Campbell intended  to propose to  the board                                                                    
that AAC zero  its budget immediately rather  than after two                                                                    
years as planned. He suggested  that the idea was considered                                                                    
a  "preemptive  surrender" by  some  AAC  board members.  He                                                                    
thought  it was  possible, from  a business  perspective, to                                                                    
invest while  simultaneously cutting  back and  reducing. He                                                                    
expressed  confidence  about  having Lockheed  Martin  as  a                                                                    
customer.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon clarified  that the  budget issue  being                                                                    
faced by the  legislature concerned FY 15 as well  as FY 16.                                                                    
She clarified that AAC had  been cutting $2 million from its                                                                    
budget, rather than $2 thousand.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:46:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche  referred to the AAC  budget request and                                                                    
asked if  there was  an over-supply  of launch  capacity. He                                                                    
wondered at  what point a  determination could be  made that                                                                    
KLC was  unable to generate  interest from customers  in the                                                                    
near  future. He  asked wondered  what  sort of  information                                                                    
might precipitate the decision to cease operations.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell  clarified that  the  $3  million request  was                                                                    
money that  was previously appropriated, and  AAC was merely                                                                    
asking  for the  funds  to  be released.  There  was no  new                                                                    
appropriation being requested for  medium lift. He furthered                                                                    
that the  $4.2 million  requested was  not state  funds, but                                                                    
rather an authorization  request so that AAC  could have the                                                                    
ability to receive the money  through aerospace receipts. He                                                                    
summarized that AAC was asking  for zero state funds for the                                                                    
FY 16 budget.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell addressed  Vice-Chair Micciche's question about                                                                    
the  point to  consider ceasing  operations. He  thought the                                                                    
topic was for discussion between  himself and the board, and                                                                    
would result  in the board  concluding that he had  not been                                                                    
able to  generate sufficient  business to  indicate success.                                                                    
He shared  that he  currently had  non-disclosure agreements                                                                    
with  a dozen  different  companies,  including the  federal                                                                    
government, to discuss services  through Kodiak (and Alaska)                                                                    
including  and   beyond  rocket  launch  services.   He  was                                                                    
optimistic  about the  future  of AAC  as  described by  Mr.                                                                    
Gamble,  and  mentioned  the  recent  contract  signed  with                                                                    
BlackBridge as  an example. He  thought it was  important to                                                                    
communicate  that  Alaska  was  an  aerospace  state;  while                                                                    
recognizing   that   the    state   could   not   contribute                                                                    
financially,   but   without   discouraging   business.   He                                                                    
discussed the  repercussions of ongoing proposals  and talks                                                                    
about shutting down KLC.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:50:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche  thought that  Mr. Campbell had  made an                                                                    
important  statement,  and  expressed appreciation  for  the                                                                    
answer to his question. He  wanted to clarify that the board                                                                    
was focused  upon moving forward, with  the realization that                                                                    
if AAC was  not able to follow  through with diversification                                                                    
and other plans, it would  be recognized and action would be                                                                    
taken.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked what  the  AAC  vision was  ten  years                                                                    
previously. He  wondered if producing profit  for the state,                                                                    
providing  a  societal  service, or  advancing  intellectual                                                                    
knowledge were part of the original plan.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Campbell thought  that the  vision of  AAC had  changed                                                                    
over time.  The legislation  that initially  established AAC                                                                    
was designed  with close ties  to the university,  to engage                                                                    
in   business  development   marketing,   and  perhaps   the                                                                    
operation  of the  Poker Flat  Research  Range [the  largest                                                                    
land-based rocket research  range in the world  and the only                                                                    
high-latitude rocket range in  the United States, located in                                                                    
the Interior]. He thought the  vision had changed rapidly in                                                                    
the late 1980s and early 1990s, as the country changed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell recounted that former  U.S. Senator Ted Stevens                                                                    
saw the  need for  missile defense and  the capability  of a                                                                    
larger  launch  facility  that  would  need  to  have  polar                                                                    
capability, and  had identified Alaska as  the location. The                                                                    
vision  had changed  into an  aerospace  company that  would                                                                    
provide the lift  (from KLC) for the  federal government and                                                                    
commercial business,  as well  as providing  other aerospace                                                                    
opportunities.  Consequently,  AAC  had  ended  up  focusing                                                                    
primarily on  KLC. In the  mid-1990s, the  commercial market                                                                    
for  satellites had  collapsed in  the U.S.  because of  the                                                                    
high  cost of  launch, and  much  of the  business had  gone                                                                    
overseas.  At that  time the  commercialization  of AAC  had                                                                    
suffered  a  setback,  and  it   had  ended  up  being  very                                                                    
dependent   upon  just   federal  government   launches.  He                                                                    
referred to  former Senator Ted  Stevens' vision  to provide                                                                    
launch capability  from Alaska for  polar orbit, as  well as                                                                    
providing a  diversified economy in aerospace  in additional                                                                    
locations   than  Kodiak.   He  mentioned   the  integration                                                                    
facility that  AAC was discussing with  Lockheed Martin, and                                                                    
thought  it would  provide some  more business  in Anchorage                                                                    
and  support  work  in Fairbanks.  He  discussed  additional                                                                    
diversification  opportunities  in  the state,  and  thought                                                                    
that was the intent of Senator Stevens.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:53:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  mentioned other launch sites,  and noted that                                                                    
many or  most were federal  facilities. He commented  on the                                                                    
financial  prowess of  the federal  government, and  thought                                                                    
the state was disadvantaged by  not having the same benefit.                                                                    
He thought  Alaska was  present as  an aerospace  state, but                                                                    
did not  envision success in  the long run due  to financial                                                                    
constraints.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  thought that Senator  Olson's premise  was not                                                                    
incorrect,  and  observed  that AAC  could  survive  on  the                                                                    
earnings  of KLC  and  expect to  have  enough launches  for                                                                    
Alaska  to be  a profitable  aerospace state.  He considered                                                                    
that  launches  were but  part  of  the portfolio  that  AAC                                                                    
should provide. He continued that  if the federal government                                                                    
was identifying KLC  as a launch facility  for federal space                                                                    
missions, it  should be  partnering with  the state  to make                                                                    
sure  KLC  was  available   and  provide  some  funding  for                                                                    
operations and sustainment.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell discussed diversification  of AAC and suggested                                                                    
that  if  KLC had  one  launch  per year,  federal  funding,                                                                    
diversified  work  with   unmanned  aircraft  systems,  data                                                                    
downlinking,  and other  services,  Alaska could  be a  very                                                                    
profitable aerospace  state. He remarked on  the competitive                                                                    
advantages of  KLC, stating that  the only  competitive U.S.                                                                    
facility was  Vandenberg Air Force  Base. He  illustrated an                                                                    
example  of  the  Vandenberg site,  in  which  a  commercial                                                                    
launch  was  postponed  for  a  national  security  mission,                                                                    
resulting  in  deferred  revenue.  Conversely,  the  federal                                                                    
government could  not usurp launches  at KLC,  and customers                                                                    
would benefit. He reiterated that  launches would not be the                                                                    
mainstay  of   business  for  AAC,   but  were   a  valuable                                                                    
commercial service niche for the country.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:56:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  commented on the drastically  low price of                                                                    
oil  and the  resultant economic  impact. He  suggested that                                                                    
the state  needed to  separate its  hobbies from  its money-                                                                    
making ventures.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Campbell  agreed with  Senator Dunleavy,  and reiterated                                                                    
that  AAC was  requesting no  state funding  and asking  for                                                                    
flexibility  for the  board to  make decisions  in order  to                                                                    
move towards diversification and profitability.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly   discussed  economic   diversification  and                                                                    
suggested that  opportunities for  such were  frequently not                                                                    
well  timed. He  used an  analogy  to suggest  that AAC  was                                                                    
important for future development.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bishop concurred with Co-Chair Kelly.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  thanked Mr. Campbell and  Mr. Gamble for                                                                    
their presentation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:59:30 AM                                                                                                                    
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10:01:47 AM                                                                                                                   
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^OVERVIEW: UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA FY 16 BUDGET                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK GAMBLE,  PRESIDENT, UNIVERSITY  OF ALASKA  (UA), AND                                                                    
CHAIR, BOARD  OF THE ALASKA AEROSPACE  CORPORATION discussed                                                                    
the PowerPoint, "FY16 Budget Overview" (copy on file).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble discussed  slide  4,  "Top Level  Organizational                                                                    
Chart," and  noted that  the University was  in a  period of                                                                    
turnover. He  directed attention  to position  titles listed                                                                    
in   red;  highlighting   new  board   members  and   vacant                                                                    
leadership  positions  including  the University  of  Alaska                                                                    
Southeast  (UAS)  chancellor,  the  UA  vice  president  for                                                                    
Academic  Affairs and  Research,  the  University of  Alaska                                                                    
Anchorage  (UAA)  provost,  and   his  own  position  as  UA                                                                    
president.  He   discussed  the  importance   of  continuity                                                                    
despite the impending change in leadership.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:18 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble looked at slide 5, "Shaping Alaska's Future":                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     A strong university system is essential to a healthy                                                                       
     and growing economy and way of life.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     That strength is measured by:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          • The number and quality of our graduates at                                                                          
          every level                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
          • Our results in meeting the workforce and                                                                            
          research needs of Alaska                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
          • Our partnership with others in tackling the                                                                         
          state's challenges and opportunities                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  referred to  a set  of guiding  principles which                                                                    
would allow  for continuity,  contained a  document entitled                                                                    
"Shaping  Alaska's Future"  (copy not  on file)  as well  as                                                                    
listed  on slide  5.  He  clarified that  the  slide was  an                                                                    
overview of  ongoing themes,  and it  was expected  that the                                                                    
themes  would be  used  as a  guide  through the  transition                                                                    
period.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:04:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  discussed  slide  6,  "FY 16  -  FY  18  Budget                                                                    
Strategy":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Focused on a core, continuing to deliver best ever                                                                         
     results, building a reputation for excellence.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
          • Student experience, retention, and success                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          • Data-driven decision making, program and                                                                            
          training    prioritization,    meeting    Alaska's                                                                    
          business requirements                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          • Research and partnerships to enhance Alaska's                                                                       
          communities and economic growth                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  stated that normally the  University briefed the                                                                    
finance  committees on  incremental  budgets, but  currently                                                                    
there were no  budget increments to discuss.  He stated that                                                                    
the capital  budget was greatly reduced  from the governor's                                                                    
proposed budget.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  wanted to  discuss how  the University  would be                                                                    
getting  through  the  following three  years.  He  strongly                                                                    
emphasized  that   the  University  was  in   the  workforce                                                                    
development business,  and it was an  important component of                                                                    
the overall budget strategy.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble highlighted  the importance  of research  to the                                                                    
university  system  and  the  state.  He  pointed  out  that                                                                    
research funding not only came  from the federal government,                                                                    
but also came from the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble addressed  slide  7, "'The  Core'  and the  FY16                                                                    
Budget":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Our core programs, those where demand is high and the                                                                      
     university demonstrates strength, are essential to                                                                         
     continue meeting state and student needs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          • Workforce Development                                                                                               
          • Research and Development                                                                                            
          • Cultural Scholarship and Preservation                                                                               
          • Community and Industry Partnerships                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble pondered that the  University was the keeper of a                                                                    
large  portion of  the cultural  preservation of  the state,                                                                    
and did  not foresee a  change in  that arena due  to budget                                                                    
cuts.  He  mentioned  diversification,  and  companies  that                                                                    
might want  to hire  Alaskans. He used  an example  from the                                                                    
previous  presentation by  the Alaska  Aerospace Corporation                                                                    
as to how a partnership with the University could work.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:08:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  looked  at slide  8,  "Recognize  and  Maintain                                                                    
Results":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
    Graduation rate nearly 12 percent higher than FY10                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Degrees and certificates awarded in FY14 at an all-                                                                        
     time high - up 31 percent from FY10                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          • Engineering degrees up 25 percent from FY10                                                                         
          • Degrees in high-demand job areas up 22 percent                                                                      
          • Teacher education degrees up 27 percent since                                                                       
          FY10                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Received more than $650 million in competitive                                                                             
     research grants since FY10 - $118 M in FY14 alone                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  thought that  budget  language  did not  always                                                                    
reflect  the relationships  between  line  items that  might                                                                    
have  unintended  consequences  if  cut.  He  discussed  the                                                                    
connections  between   programs  that   grew  as   a  budget                                                                    
decreased.   He   mentioned  increased   graduation   rates,                                                                    
academic  advising, and  other  methods  that would  connect                                                                    
output to  priorities. He  added that  the University  had a                                                                    
list of  priorities that went  beyond what was shown  on the                                                                    
slide.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble   discussed  slide  9,  "Preserve   and  Enhance                                                                    
Reputation":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • UA percentage of total degrees that are STEM, 6th in                                                                     
     the U.S for public institutions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • UAA 2015 list of the best online programs for                                                                            
     master's degrees in education.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • UAA ranked by US News and World Report in the top 5                                                                      
     percent out of 1421 institutions in the Western                                                                            
     Region.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     • UAA Experimental Economics ranked 10th in the                                                                            
     nation.                                                                                                                    
     • UAS 2015 list Best Online Teaching Degrees.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     •  UAF  Homeland   Security  and  Emergency  Management                                                                    
     (HSEM)   program,  ranked   as  2nd   in  the   US  for                                                                    
     affordability of program and 5th  in the US for quality                                                                    
     of program.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     • UAF research publications and citations on Arctic                                                                        
     research top not only the nation, but are also number                                                                      
     one in the world                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  discussed the reputation  of the  University and                                                                    
its role in success. He  thought reputation was an important                                                                    
factor  in hiring  good faculty  and  garnering funding  for                                                                    
research.   He    discussed   the    University's   positive                                                                    
reputation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:11:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche noticed a  growing proportion of Alaska-                                                                    
educated engineers  and technicians. He thought  the product                                                                    
was impressive. He  asked if the state  had investigated the                                                                    
university system  as a profit  center and  an international                                                                    
service provider, and as a means to off-set in-state costs.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  thought  there  was  great  potential,  as  yet                                                                    
unlocked, for the University to  be an international service                                                                    
provider.  He  thought  that  UAA  and  UAF  had  set  up  a                                                                    
commercialization  and  intellectual  property  organization                                                                    
that would allow  the University to take a  share of profits                                                                    
that would come  from the research and  development. He used                                                                    
the example  of an algorithm  developed by a  faculty member                                                                    
that  could be  sold for  profit. He  thought the  number of                                                                    
submissions for patents  that had been submitted  by the two                                                                    
schools  was   impressive,  and  recounted  that   each  had                                                                    
received money for a share in the product.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  recounted  that   the  University  had  started                                                                    
programs  in the  past without  knowledge  of the  potential                                                                    
return   on   investment.    He   elaborated   that   future                                                                    
considerations  for new  programs  would  always include  an                                                                    
evaluation of whether a program  would add value and whether                                                                    
it  would break  even, since  it was  no longer  possible to                                                                    
subsidize programs with GF.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:15:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble addressed slide 10, "How to Strengthen the                                                                           
Core?"                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Address the higher education paradigm shift:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
          • keep building value and showing accountability                                                                      
          • balance tuition and fees                                                                                            
          • compete, stay relevant, embrace institutional                                                                       
         academic excellence, and student service                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Establish partnerships:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          • State of Alaska, federal government, commercial                                                                     
          businesses                                                                                                            
          • K-12 schools; other universities                                                                                    
          • private industry                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Build an institutional reputation for excellence:                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          • college and workforce ready students, excellent                                                                     
          faculty, and robust research dollars                                                                                  
          • earn a well-deserved seat at the academic table                                                                     
          with peers                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Gamble  qualified   that  the   slide  addressed   the                                                                    
University's  "niche." He  thought  that Alaska's  geography                                                                    
contributed greatly to the  University's strength. He wanted                                                                    
the   University   to   maintain  its   excellence   without                                                                    
disassembling during the fiscal crisis.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble displayed slide 11, "'Niches' = Aim                                                                            
Points":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Research for Alaska's needs                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
    • Fisheries, Seafood and Maritime Initiative (FSMI)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          • Alaska's largest workforce                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Arctic Policy                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • An Aerospace State                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Health Sciences                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     • Geo Sciences                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     • Land grant initiative                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble pointed  out that  the  University was  formally                                                                    
introducing the land grant initiative  to the legislature in                                                                    
the current legislative session.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:17:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman referred  to slide  10, and  felt that  the                                                                    
tuition  and fees  had attracted  attention over  the recent                                                                    
years.  He  asked  about  strengthening   the  core  of  the                                                                    
University, and  asked Mr.  Gamble to  expand on  the bullet                                                                    
point  "balance  tuition and  fees."  He  wondered what  the                                                                    
concept meant to the average  student that was attending the                                                                    
University.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble commented  that the  University could  not solve                                                                    
its financial problems by raising  tuition. He discussed the                                                                    
tuition  increase  from the  previous  year,  which was  the                                                                    
smallest increase  in over  10 years.  He reported  that the                                                                    
University was  looking at a  small increase in  the current                                                                    
year,  but  it  was  not  expected  that  increasing  budget                                                                    
shortfalls would be solved on  the backs of the students. He                                                                    
thought that students  needed to have a stake  in the period                                                                    
of  financial  hardship as  well.  He  thought a  5  percent                                                                    
tuition increase  was not as  low as some other  states, and                                                                    
compared it  to other tuition change  scenarios, both higher                                                                    
and lower.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon queried  where  Alaska's tuition  ranked                                                                    
against the other states.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble  discussed the group of  states included in                                                                    
the  Western  Interstate  Commission  for  Higher  Education                                                                    
(WICHE)  and the  regional differences  in other  states. He                                                                    
estimated that the University was  75 percent lower than the                                                                    
average  of its  peer universities  in the  WICHE group.  He                                                                    
estimated  that the  University was  perhaps slightly  below                                                                    
average in terms of total fees.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  considered that Mr. Gamble  had used two                                                                    
different sets of  criteria in his answer.  She wondered how                                                                    
University tuition compared to all other states.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  estimated  that the  University's  tuition  was                                                                    
perhaps fourth  from the lowest  in the U.S. He  stated that                                                                    
Alaska had gone up somewhat  in the ranking, but now certain                                                                    
states such as North Dakota were subsidizing more.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:21:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon wondered  if the  presentation reflected                                                                    
President  Obama's   proposal  to  provide   free  community                                                                    
college education. She wondered  if the proposal would drive                                                                    
up costs for  students, and if the  federal government would                                                                    
be carrying student loans for the program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble  replied  that there  were  no  current  details                                                                    
pertaining to that impact. He  furthered that the UA tuition                                                                    
was charged at the same  rate for the two-year and four-year                                                                    
colleges. He  thought it  would be a  wonderful goal  to cut                                                                    
the cost of Alaska's two-year  programs in half, and thought                                                                    
it would attract a lot more students.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  expressed  concern that  if  there  was                                                                    
federal  funding for  higher education  and a  corresponding                                                                    
belief that  the education  would be free,  would it  end up                                                                    
causing a raise in the cost.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble agreed  that there  would a  be price  tag                                                                    
associated with  that proposal. He  hoped that  the proposal                                                                    
would lead to a higher graduation rate.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:24:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble addressed slide 12,  "The Model: Eliminate Cost +                                                                    
Generate Revenue":                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • Prioritize and reallocate resources                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Space utilization: reduce leased space, consolidate                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     • Long-term facility management plan… Sightlines,                                                                          
     university building fund, land grant initiative                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Control energy use                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • System-level collaborations … IT                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     • Commercialization                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     • Investment opportunities…unmanned aerial systems,                                                                        
     alternative energy, arctic research, climate research,                                                                     
     fisheries, oceans, space physics, and public-private                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     • Enroll and retain more students                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  commented that  there was  currently a  sense of                                                                    
urgency  with regard  to driving  down costs  and generating                                                                    
revenue, and thought that it  tended to drive things more so                                                                    
than   advanced  thinking.   He  highlighted   collaboration                                                                    
between  the  three  universities  in  the  UA  system,  and                                                                    
emphasized the leadership group  made of the chancellors and                                                                    
provosts of each unit. He  recounted that the University had                                                                    
been able  to move forward  on a number of  initiatives that                                                                    
had never  gained traction in  the years past.  He discussed                                                                    
the  necessity   of  the  University  paying   for  its  own                                                                    
utilities, which would be a significant additional cost.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  mentioned that  a number  of companies  that had                                                                    
wanted to partner with the  University and commercialize. He                                                                    
highlighted   that   the  University   was   internationally                                                                    
renowned  for the  number of  published  and cited  articles                                                                    
pertaining  to the  Arctic. He  reiterated  his point  about                                                                    
dismantling positive  achievements of  the University  as an                                                                    
unintended consequence  of budget savings. He  added that it                                                                    
was  important  to  preserve  the   goal  of  enrolling  and                                                                    
retaining more students.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop thought  the University  was  doing a  great                                                                    
job,   and   discussed   programs   that   were   full   and                                                                    
collaborating on the use of resources.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble highlighted slide 13, "Challenges":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     • "Readiness"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     • "The Core"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     • Communicating a positive message of quality and                                                                          
     excellence while rightsizing staff, faculty, programs                                                                      
     and departments                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     • Aging infrastructure                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     • Meeting the terms, expectations of public and                                                                            
     private partners                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     • Preserving an essential ability to invest                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble asserted that Alaska  did not have a standard for                                                                    
readiness  for  higher  education.  He  thought  most  other                                                                    
states had a definition of  readiness, and reported that the                                                                    
University  was  working  with the  state  to  identify  the                                                                    
meaning of college or workforce readiness.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:28:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  thought that some Alaskan  high school graduates                                                                    
were not  ready at a  level to enter a  union apprenticeship                                                                    
program  after  high school.  He  considered  the issue  was                                                                    
important  in order  to  reach goals  of  the University  in                                                                    
fisheries, mining,  and skill sets  for the North  Slope. He                                                                    
thought alignment with K-12 education  would be an advantage                                                                    
for students of all kinds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble thought that the  University needed to maintain a                                                                    
positive  message. He  discussed  downsizing facilities  and                                                                    
the   importance  of   receiving   community  feedback.   He                                                                    
commented  that  although  there was  aging  infrastructure,                                                                    
deferred maintenance  was still  a top priority.  He pointed                                                                    
out that the University  utilized deferred maintenance funds                                                                    
as soon as they were received.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble continued  to discuss slide 13,  and alleged that                                                                    
from a business  point of view, the most  difficult task was                                                                    
to identify future opportunities for investment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  looked at  the last  three points  of slide                                                                    
13.  He referred  to programs  in health  and science  which                                                                    
provided   essential  services   for   public  and   private                                                                    
partnerships.  He  asked  about  the future  of  the  Alaska                                                                    
Native Science  and Engineering Program (ANSEP),  WICHE, and                                                                    
the WWAMI  program [a cooperative program  of the University                                                                    
Of  Washington   School  of  Medicine  and   the  states  of                                                                    
Washington,  Wyoming, Alaska,  Montana,  and  Idaho] in  the                                                                    
context of the last three points on the slide.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  opined that  ANSEP, WICHE,  and WWAMI  were core                                                                    
programs,  and  were  essential to  the  reputation  of  the                                                                    
university system.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked if Mr. Gamble  was anticipating an                                                                    
increase  or  decrease  in  the  operating  budget  for  the                                                                    
University.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:33:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble  addressed slide 14,  "UA view of  the FY16                                                                    
Operating  Budget;   Short-term  Challenges   and  Long-term                                                                    
Implications."  He qualified  that  the  information on  the                                                                    
slide was  assembled by  the University  rather than  by the                                                                    
Legislative Finance  Division (LFD).  He continued  that LFD                                                                    
documents  looked  at  appropriations through  a  particular                                                                    
lens,  and   the  University   viewed  it   differently.  He                                                                    
identified a  decrement of $43  million from  the governor's                                                                    
proposed budget, and  stated that the amount  was the target                                                                    
for  cuts  throughout  the  three  universities  in  the  UA                                                                    
system.  He  identified  the   shortfall  as  the  near-term                                                                    
problem, and  specified that the  long-term problem  was the                                                                    
declining  GF baseline.  He  estimated  that the  University                                                                    
would continue to get reductions.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  thought that the slide  was confusing to                                                                    
the general public since every  other department presented a                                                                    
baseline budget  from the  appropriation number  provided by                                                                    
the department.  She wanted to  see what the  University had                                                                    
received  the  previous year;  and  how  the current  budget                                                                    
request would be an increase,  decrease, or flat-funded. She                                                                    
acknowledged  Chancellor  John  Pugh  and  Chancellor  Brian                                                                    
Rogers were in attendance.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:36:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  remarked on the position  vacancies that                                                                    
had  been   discussed  earlier  in  the   presentation.  The                                                                    
committee  was interested  in whether  recurring costs  were                                                                    
being removed  from the  budget, or  if they  were positions                                                                    
being held in the budget from past appropriations.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked if Mr.  Gamble wanted to comment on                                                                    
the recent  closure of the  child care facility at  UAA. She                                                                    
had heard about the recent closure in the media.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gamble  directed attention to the  4.6 percent reduction                                                                    
in GF  in FY 15,  and recounted  that the University  had to                                                                    
cover a $28.4 million  budget shortfall, which had increased                                                                    
to  $42.9 million  the following  fiscal year.  He explained                                                                    
that  the cuts  were  necessary to  account  for the  budget                                                                    
shortfall. He reiterated that the  University focused on the                                                                    
amount of  decrement to  work with  rather than  the funding                                                                    
amount in any given budget cycle.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble discussed  the  employee  authorizations at  the                                                                    
University,  stating  that  of 4,900  authorizations,  there                                                                    
were approximately 4,500 total  employees. He continued that                                                                    
the number  of staff was  decreasing, the number  of faculty                                                                    
was being reduced, and some programs had begun to close.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gamble   addressed  the  child  care   center  closure,                                                                    
indicating  that  he wanted  the  matter  to be  dealt  with                                                                    
entirely  as a  campus  issue. He  thought  the issues  were                                                                    
clear,  and  discussed  the lack  of  accreditation  of  the                                                                    
academic  program associated  with  the  center. He  thought                                                                    
there was more to the issue than was immediately apparent.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  expressed appreciation for  Mr. Gamble's                                                                    
presence at the meeting.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:40:30 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:40 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
021115 UofA FY16 Budget Overview.pdf SFIN 2/11/2015 9:00:00 AM
Budget
AK_Aerospace_Complex-OMB.pdf SFIN 2/11/2015 9:00:00 AM
Administrative Order 271
Alaska Aerospace Corporation 2 11 15 Presentation (2).pdf SFIN 2/11/2015 9:00:00 AM
Administrative Order 271